Brian talks with Rob Tiffany, technology lead for IoT at Microsoft. They start by reminiscing about the original mobile devices they both used and then Rob talks about being a submariner during the gulf war and learning to program, from how he went from OS2 to Access and lock in. They talk Window Mobile and then Rob talks about the launch of Windows Phone 7, the issues from it, and how it set the stage for Microsoft moving forward. They move to building mobile apps and then Rob talks about the book he’s written on mobile strategy. They then talk about Rob’s role as technology lead for IoT at Microsoft and how it relates to mobile.